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So what does one talk about with a Draenei..

This was another random, quick assemble I did; since there’s a good chance there might not be a comic update today, I figured I’d atleast provide something to look at in some form. (If only the comic was as quick to assemble..) In a way it’s a continuation/sequel of the post immediately prior, and like it while it should be work safe, I’ll be nice and do a cut for safety.

One of the things that I find really charming about the pairing of Nhani and her Draenei friend is for all the similarities between their peoples.. there’s also a world of differences, both social and physical. This particular one came out of how I’d finally regained one of Nhani’s old classic outfits and so for the first time in quite awhile had her walk around Darnassus in casual gear rather than heavy armor; I even had her barefoot for the time because with so much time spent in the north, there hasn’t been much opportunity to, and she wanted to feel the grass against her bare feet for awhile. It led to her making an off-hand remark to a friend of hers going “And he wonders what is so good about proper feet..”.

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I could so totally picture it being something they’d hold a bedside conversation over – the pros and cons of feet versus hooves and any number of such topic, just sharing experiences such as running barefeet in grass or any of the sort. Fun little jabs and remarks and simply talking for the sake of talking, without really having to be all that serious about it – just “Hello, I enjoy spending time with you.”

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37 Responses to “So what does one talk about with a Draenei..”


  1. 1 TheNic
    February 28, 2010 at 18:44

    what do you talk about with a Draenei?
    simple: if it is a male, wich it is in this case you slowly run your hands down his arms, take hold if his hands and say:
    – Reroll anything but Draenei or get the fuck out of my house!!

    • 2 Nielspeterdejong
      December 23, 2011 at 17:51

      Haters gonna hate I guess.

      Serieusly, what is with the Draenei male hate? Most female friends of mine love the big dudes. Their not meant to be sissy metrosexual Blood elves, or huge tusked freaks with a funny accent.

      Their good in their own way. You don’t like them, fine, but I could say a lot more about the other races then the male Draenei ;p

  2. February 28, 2010 at 19:34

    I allready went in huge detail about my views on Draenei/Night elf relationships so i’ll just keep with the hooves….well….what else CAN you talk about after love making?
    Allthough those tentacle beards and tails are also good talking material….

    Wonder how a Draeni/night elf offspring would look like anyway…..

    • 5 TheNic
      February 28, 2010 at 20:18

      For the sake of the wellbeing of all Azeroth, I pray that we will never find out what their offspring would look like.

      • 6 Nhani
        February 28, 2010 at 20:44

        Oy!

        Seeing how old Moonfall well intends to bear a child of her own at some point in the eventual future, I’d say don’t tempt fate! You might gain only ruinnnnn~

        That said, Blizzard was happy to show a half Draenei, half Orc as simply a gray orc, so I’m entirely content with the idea of potential spawn pretty much entirely taking after his/her/their mum, though possibly with minor tweaks.

        I already have a base model I put together once for envisioning what an elven child might look like, even; I might just try to tweak it at some point. When, y’know, I have enough of an idea and can be bothered to.

        • February 28, 2010 at 20:55

          I think that would be cool.
          Hell if we look at Med’an, surely a Night Elf/Draenei child could excist?
          Only if Nhani would have a child with him, it would make more sense.

          I still call bullshit on Med’ivh and Garona, Khadgar made more sense! end of!

          Yeh sorry about the rant here…cant stop typing that one sentince when i mention Med’an’s name…

          • 8 Nhani
            February 28, 2010 at 21:10

            Well I took some quick time to dig around my own archives and found two fairly old pictures – we’re talking September 2008, so they’re like a year and a half old, and it.. kind of shows. I’d probably start over from scratch – or in the least employ some pretty heavy overhauls – if I were to try again.

            But still, we have this and this.

            Bear in mind, these images are old enough to predate Wrath of the Lich King, so it’s from a time when I expected the father to be some random night elf. I’m not entirely sure what tweaks I’d have in mind though, and to what extents the whole halfbreed bit would be expected to be visible. I mean, seeing how Blizzard themselves tend to run with what looks good/cool, I could possibly get away with just slightly shorter ears and some of those under-ear tendrils that Draenei women have.

            • February 28, 2010 at 21:17

              Personally i would pick a Dreanei child, replace the hooves (thinking of Nhzni’s womb here when it kicks), make longer ears, take it from there.

            • 10 Thalis
              March 1, 2010 at 18:39

              I would rather stick with “only slightly modified” Night Elf. An imagination of “NE with hooves, horns, tail and face tendrils” disgusts me; although I will probably wait with critique until I see example.

            • 11 Nhani
              March 1, 2010 at 18:47

              There’s a point where excessive gets just excessive, really; also if you think about it, the body differences aren’t that significant; it’s mainly the legs and the faces.

              That said, I’m not intent on creating either demonspawn or eldritch horrors, so my preference is to keep it simple and subtle. I wouldn’t mind some kind of telltale somewhere, but it should preferably be subtle and possible to hide. Enough to hint at the parentage, yet still being possible to overlook at a glance. There’s a good balance in there somewhere.

      • February 28, 2010 at 20:44

        Hey Draenei/Orc offpsring aren’t that bad.
        Hell Garona is one hot thing, i would still hit that.

        I did find out that demons had ‘their willy ways’ with some night elves, resulting into Demon/night elf offspring. I think if anything Draenei/Night elf couples can expect their child, if they can have any, to look like that, only more cute and friendly.

        • 13 Thalis
          February 28, 2010 at 23:26

          Unnnh, although I don’t mind romances between different races, I strongly oppose an idea of children between Night Elves and Draenei, I think I am a bit traditional in this. Half-elves? Yes, of course. NE/BE? Personally, I would love to see. NE/Troll? I suppose this may work, but probably never happens. Orc/Draenei? Although this is canon, I dont like it. I would rather not see anything else, to quote Tvtropes: “Pass a Brain Bleach.” Unfortunately, Ne/Draenei falls into the last category.

          • 14 Nhani
            March 1, 2010 at 02:10

            Actually, if you think about it, most half breeds in Warcraft really doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. If you go with origins, Humans would technically only be able to hybridize with dwarves (well, gnomes, I guess, but let’s not go there), really; elves are in a strange position since the night elves were magically uplifted and whatever they were they pretty much only have their own kinds in common now. Orcs in a way don’t make sense with anything other than Ogres, and even that’s questionable seeing the Gronn.

            That said, people will happily buy half elves because they’re a fantasy staple; much the same with half orcs, really. They don’t contextually make sense, but I find people don’t usually stop to think about that, the same way I find many tend to forget Orcs are technically aliens.

            Of course, if you take the origins of Cenarius into account, you could technically consider it hilarious unintentional symbolism if Nhani were to have a child with a Draenei. That said, I always felt any child she’d have would take after their mother first (she and her brother were the same regarding their own mother), so it never struck me as a big issue; whatever child she’d have would essentially be primarily pale night elf with green hair, with only a few variables swapped around depending on the other side of their parentage.

            • 15 Xel
              March 1, 2010 at 02:34

              I think as long as this is World of Warcraft roleplay, and not Warcraft roleplay, you can pretty much make your story swing however which way you want it too. When it comes down to it, Blizzard can warp their story however they want and that’s how the story is going to develop, regardless of the opinion of their lore fans. On the same note, those who want to create their own stories within the context of WoW’s Azeroth should be fairly free to create whatever they want, however they want.

              Essentially, if Blizzard gets to ‘rule of cool’ major parts of their storyline, then so should anyone creating within that same realm of imagination. It is hypocritical to say, “that would never happen” or “that doesn’t make sense in Azeroth” because Blizzard themselves have proved that they really don’t care about keeping their lore “linear.”

              Now, certainly anyone is welcome to their own opinion about what they like and/or don’t like to see, but any such negative comments might be better kept to oneself in as loose a fantasy world as Warcraft’s. Anyways, I love what you have created here, Nhani. Is there anywhere I can go to read any textual recordings of Priestess Moonfall’s travels? Her story, while it still continues to this day, sounds fascinating and very much apart from what you’ve created at BtT.

            • 16 Nhani
              March 1, 2010 at 08:36

              I’m fine with people having an opinion, really; that’s why anyone can comment rather than there being a forum where I kick people out. πŸ˜‰

              That said, I do reserve the right to disagree with what people say and swing my own hammer of logic.

              And no, not anymore, really. A whole lot of it is outdated or redundant by now anyhow.

  3. 17 Synchronizor
    March 1, 2010 at 03:41

    Given how different Draenei and Night Elven physiologies are, a case of successful reproduction seems to be a bit of a long shot from a purely biological standpoint. Discussion about the appearance of a hybrid between races always seem to have a major focus on facial characteristics, but to me, the child’s ear shape or hair color would seem to be secondary concerns. Draenei leg structure is very different from that of humans and elves. blood chemistry is another biological red flag, Draenei have blue blood which must be radically different from Night Elven blood, (whatever color that is supposed to be).

    It’s true that we have seen at least one Draenei/Orc hybrid in current lore with Garona, two races which are also not from the same planet; and she has given birth to a Draenei/Orc/Human child. There were some interesting magical factors surrounding those conceptions though. Gul’dan had a hand in the former, while the latter was fathered by Medivh. Taking these circumstances into consideration, I would be hesitant to accept these examples as evidence to the viability of “natural” conception between such disparate races.

    However, I do feel that on an emotional level a Draenei would make more sense as a romantic partner for a Night Elf than many other races, given their shared longevity and it’s effect on their outlooks and mental states.

    Just out of curiosity, where does Nhani live in Darnassus? Or does she not have a personal dwelling, and just stays in the Sentinel bunkhouse or the inn when she is in town?

    Though now that I think about it, I have trouble imagining Nhani bringing a date into the Sentinel bunkhouse for some nude foot comparison…

    • 18 Nhani
      March 1, 2010 at 09:13

      Well there’s always the question of how far you’d take it, and how you see it. In a way, the main difference with Draenei legs is simply that they have hard toes and enlongened feet. On the other hand, take the classic fantasy halfbreed of half human, half high elf into a warcraft context: they might look similar.. but it’s essentially suggesting that a race of former giants who are implied to possibly have once either been made of stone or iron and were degenerated through the influence of an Old God would be highly similar to a race that were magically remade in the image of the Moon Goddess and then were transformed through further use of magic.

      There’s really very few crossbreeds that aren’t going to eventually hit serious levels of ridiculous if you try to think of them in scientific terms.

      I do have some stretching space however, I’d think, in that the Draenei seem to be very much a people of magic, much like the Night elves in a sense. I mean, at some degree you could make an argument for how a union between the two might be less about crossing physical features and more about crossing magical ones. Of course, like said, even this path of thinking can become very weird very fast, so I don’t think it’s something you really can make sense of through analysis.

      If anything, I very much doubt Blizzard really thinks of it that deeply.

      As for her residence, I think there might possibly be a room set aside for her or somesuch for when she’s in the city and where she can put what personal possessions she has. I doubt it’s very large or elaborate since she’s generally too much on the move to truly live in it. Either that, or the Temple ensures there are places of temporary residence for their traveling sisters for when they stop by; either specifically intended for them, or simply the local inns being glad to provide to the needs of their Priestesses.

      • March 1, 2010 at 10:16

        I thinks a small personal room makes more sense, since we all know Barkeeps never can things to themselves.

        Inn keeper: Hello can- Oh good evening priestess -bows-
        Nhani: Elune be with you…may i rent a room for the night please?
        Inn keeper: sure, sure! -gives her a key, smiling as she blesses him, going to her room-
        Draenei: -comes in- Greetings, i am looking for my friend Pritestess Moonfall, have you seen her?
        Inn keeper: yes noble ally, she just went upstairs to the first room to your left.
        Draeni: The Naaru watch over you..-goes upstairs-

        5 minutes later

        Inn keeper: i wonder what that bunking noise is upstairs…..?

        I love making small plays πŸ˜€

        That aside, in the Warcraft-and WoW Rp books they have pages on half-breeds, even on the human-night elf/human-blood elf kind that by now aren’t even full grown yet!
        Besides you got half-dwarves aswell, so half night elf-draenei makes complete sense to me.

        So far i’m suprised i see no hate towards Med’an here…..

        • 20 Nhani
          March 1, 2010 at 19:32

          I stopped following the official comic quite awhile ago, so most of the time I’m too occupied pretending I don’t know it exists to get caught up in it.

          Besides, I have larger birds to boil; though I’ll save you that rant because it’ll just be a whole lot of wharrgarbl.

          • March 1, 2010 at 20:17

            Trust me, the less you know about Med’an, the better.
            Personally i have good hopes with the upcoming ‘horde’ and ‘alliance’ graphic novels coming out, whenever.
            I’ll try to get them and get back to you about them.

            Oh, you picked up ‘Stormrage’ btw Nhani??

            • 22 Nhani
              March 1, 2010 at 20:32

              ..No, I haven’t. And if even half of what I’ve heard about it is true, you’d probably want to keep as much distance between me and it as humanly possible.

              You recall what I said about larger birds to boil? Yeah.

            • March 2, 2010 at 00:01

              Hm….i’l getting that one wedsday…i’ll give you lot the review on it.

            • 24 Synchronizor
              March 2, 2010 at 05:29

              I did hear that Krasus and Rhonin will be minor characters at best. That’s something at least…

  4. 25 Gordrake Thunderhoof
    March 1, 2010 at 12:23

    Half-breeds…always a topic of discussion when races cross over. It baffles me, really, why it’s such a big issue in the first place. At the end of the day, this is a fantasy world: Biologically nothing makes complete sense, and it’s impossible to keep a formula scientifically because magical elements can throw that all up in the air and kick your brain sidewards in the process. It’s not even a real argument because the creators of these fantasy realms – Blizzard, the RPers in the game, etc. – all have their own views and such on how it’d work. If they can actually make it feasible and pay off, then all good for them, but what the main barrier is for me, personally, is personality clashes and the like.

    Take this as an example: A half-orc, half-human. The two races hate each other with such passion they’d rather kill or be killed than have a child spawned by the race of their enemy, man or woman alike. Only in exceptional cases would this be considered even possible (thinking about Thrall’s human relations, both past and present, when I think about this) and even then nothing happens from it because of the friction between the two races – a half-breed would only get the child killed, the mother slain over accusations of treason and then they’d start a hunt for the father. In cases like that, an explanation must be completely thorough and feasible, otherwise you’re just gonna be heckled out of 90% of all RPing communities.

    In comparison, there is nothing to argue with a Draenei and a Night Elf. Elune and the Naaru aren’t that much different in the foundations of their beliefs, the two races are in an alliance with each other (and are neighbours to each other), they both share common goals and common mistakes (troubling the land, wishing to restore the natural order of things, etc.) and they are both considered outcasts to some extent because of the wrongdoings of their demonic cousins. As for conception, that’s not really an issue: The length of time a Night Elf and Draenei lives for is exceedingly long so reproduction is very much going to be little and few (as opposed to humans, who would do it to every partner they met with if they could for the most part) and even when they do try to concieve a child, you have the mixed energy of the Narru, Elune, the druidic nature of Night Elves and the shamanistic heritage of the Draenei all culminating in this mixing pot that could alter the laws of reality and make the child form.

    Though having said that, it also amuses me how, after a few posts regarding Nhani’s dreamboat, everyone’s suddenly talking about kids and what they would look like. Admittedly, yeah, there might be a time where they will have children and Nhani has said she wants to have a child at some point, but they got more years ahead of them than Stormwind has got idiots. There’s no rush for them, they don’t need to.

    Besides, if you want to talk about strange cross-breeds, Tauren and Night Elves are part of the Cenarion Circle. Want to think about the cross-breeding possible in that avenue? No? Didn’t think so.

    • March 1, 2010 at 13:12

      Yeh to late, i went there….

      I appologise for starting of this debate which is seriously off topic.
      As punishment i will slap myself.
      Now i know you people didn’t see that, it really hurt…sort of.

      Back on topic…urghm….hooves…do Draenei even feel anytihng on their feet?

      • 27 Synchronizor
        March 1, 2010 at 17:32

        Hooves are like fingernails, they could probably pick up vibrations or force through them, but there wouldn’t be nerve endings in the hoof itself.

        At least, that’s how it is for non-alien hoofed mammals, I’m assuming that’s how Draenei hooves work too.

    • 29 Moltrazahn
      March 2, 2010 at 10:28

      “…but they got more years ahead of them than Stormwind has got idiots. There’s no rush for them, they don’t need to.”

      … now now… while your post is win… ehm… remember that Stormwind is still located close to Goldshire… so… lets not make statements that seem abit farfetched πŸ˜‰

      • 30 Gordrake Thunderhoof
        March 2, 2010 at 18:08

        Thanks for the compliment on the post. Though in regards to the Stormwind/Goldshire thing…Goldshire is just PvPers trying to pick a fight with anything that lives. They’re not idiots, just fanatics. Stormwind can’t have Duels, so all the fighting becomes wordy and insults. And believe be, there’s been some rather pathetic arguments in Stormwind that I am still trying to bleach out of my brain cells.

        • 31 Moltrazahn
          March 3, 2010 at 19:46

          Well… and, lets not forget, we owe alot to goldshire rp’ers!

          Let me sum it up…

          In vanilla, goldshire would sire TONS of what might be considered bad rp. Take a level 3 paladin going around telling people he is a Deathknight! *rawr* …. now, at the second expansion… we get Deathknights..

          Another goldshire thing, Werewolf’s and Vampires! *even more rawr* … and lo’ and behold, the third expansion… we get worgens… O.o

          I myself suspect that wow staff is getting ideas from goldshire… so the next class is either vampire (then again Deathknights did have hp-regen attacks, so maybe its fused!) or whatever they conjure up. At any rate… goldshire has tons of stories, most which stays in goldshire *nodnod*

          But of-cause, there are pvp’ers. Testing their metal aginst the lowlevels!

          • 32 Gordrake Thunderhoof
            March 4, 2010 at 01:21

            All good and interesting facts. And I bet a lot of people are facepalming now seeing how their RPing to be DK’s and Werewolves are actually coming back to bite them on the ass, as it were.

            But I said they weren’t idiots. They were fanatics. If you were trying to disprove that, I don’t see where that got covered, considering they were very fanatical about being these creatures that are coming into the game – or have already been brought into the game. And I hold on calling them idiots because if what you say is true…what person in their right mind would take an idea from an idiot? An even bigger idiot? It doesn’t work when that ‘bigger idiot’ proves to be the smart one and makes a race/class that people would want to play.

            From what I see, Blizz would’ve been playing it smart and taking those ideas from Goldshire instead of Stormwind simply for two reasons: One, in the Trade District, there is never any RP, not even bad RP. It’s just bad. Two, Stormwind has idiots…and like I said, what person in their right mind would take an idea from an idiot?

            …and apologies to Nhani for having this kinda drag on the tail end of this. Should’ve taken it back to that discussion post you had about Stormwind being the Insane Asylum. Just that having been there and seen it for myself…can’t help but agree. And some weird stuff happens in front of the Cathedral sometimes too…guess it helps to be a relative nobody when observing.

            • 33 Moltrazahn
              March 4, 2010 at 07:07

              *grins* nono, not trying to disprove you :P… just saying that you can find plenty of “idiots” in wow if you just look for it πŸ˜› and i doubt they will stop coming = my point is, i am fairly sure our lovely Moonfall and her battleship of a man could have plenty of time to conquer the world, raise kids, and heck, maybe even get grandkids before we start to see even an inch degree lesser of that kind in SW :P… but im no prophet! just my own observations added to the discussion. But your right, we’re spamming πŸ˜€ Pardon ^^

  5. 34 Morbium
    March 4, 2010 at 12:40

    I was going to give my own theory on half-breeds here, but realized it’s just another opinion.

    The idea of draenei/night elf relations seems…odd at first, but not improbable. However, dont let the lifespan idea fool you. Night elves live long, but not nearly as long as draenei. The oldest night elves are perhaps eleventhousand years old at maximum? And not they lost their immortality.

    While Draenei seem to be immortal in terms of age, or at least very near it. But 50000 years seems to be the common conception of their age.

    So a night elf would still be a mayfly romance to a draenei. Though longer than the other races out there. Nhani might be one of the oldest elves out there. But her sweet blue fancy probably beats her on terms of years.

    As for our couple’s relationship length here. Remember that the night elves lost their immortality, and it doesn’t look like there will be many aspects left to bless a new world tree any time soon. The old one might heal in time, but in how much time? With bad luck they only could have a couple hundred years, in the best case an eternity together.

    Secondly, biology.
    Draenei are…different.
    They’re the most different of human-like races in the game. The external differences are one thing. The internal ones an entire other problem!

    A draenei/night elf crossbreed would NOT be impossible, only improbable. Would quite likelly require the add of magic, and birth might be very uncomfortable.

    Though it’s all a point of your own damn choice.

    The kid could be anything you want. A purple draenei with green hair and sharp, long ears? Possible. A blue night elf with face tentacles and slight horn/crest formation? Also possible.

    The day you see your halfbreed limited to one certain thing is the day blizz ships a pic of a draenei/nelf crossbreed. And i’ll probably rue that day.

  6. 35 Dallanna
    March 5, 2010 at 06:09

    What’s so good about proper feet, he asks? Easy, so he can go through the romantic pose of him kissing her feet.

  7. 36 WoWplayer
    March 7, 2010 at 01:50

    maybe the hoofs wont form and it will be feet therefore the build will not be as bulky


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