Request: Tell me of Memorable Central Kalimdor Characters

Step one: Find Plans. Step two: Save world. Step three: GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!

So I thought, it’s now 2012 and what better way to start a new year than ask some random people on the internet for help! …well okay, on reflection putting it like that makes it sound more than a little bit mental, but bear with me. Basically: Do you consider yourself familiar with Warcraft as a setting? Have you spent plenty of time leveling around central Kalimdor back in pre-Cataclysm days? Have any fond memories of quests and NPCs in that region? Read on, because You May Be Able To Help.

Here’s the thing: with 2012 starting there’s a whole lot of things I need to start sorting out – one of which being my general indecisiveness in regards to whether or not I actually want to continue Beyond the Tree into Story Arc Two. While I’m no closer to actually making a direct conclusion in that regard, I’ve decided that if I’m going to have a chance at making a proper decision, I first need to see if I can make the story arc compelling enough for me to follow, which means that it needs to be more than story – it needs to have potentially interesting moments, encounters, mini-stories and all those kinds of things littered alongside the main story trail.

The problem, though, is that as things are for the moment, at least a noticeable portion of Arc Two is likely to take place in and around the Barrens, with potential visits to Dustwallow Marsh and maybe Durotar, and seeing how I have never once managed to level a Horde character above level 10… there’s a whole wealth of characters and quests and experiences there which I’ve never really touched all that deeply upon.

So, what I want is for you lot to tell me which characters in the region of the Barrens, Durotar, Orgrimmar, Dustwallow Marsh and Theramore, from before Cataclysm, which you think are interesting/have good story potential/absolutely must be referenced. I want to know their names, I’d love to have a link to them on some place like Wowhead or wowwiki or wowpedia, I want to know what kind of role they play in the overall Warcraft narrative, I want to know where they were situated and I want to know who they are and what makes them worth a mention. The Why there at the end is of particular importance – since I have no personal connection to most, if any of, these characters, I need to know why I should care about them.

So what am I in particular interested in? Well, characters which are “interesting”, but I’m not sure if that definition could be any more diffuse, so it might be better to say characters that somehow stood out to people. Are there any equivalents to, say, Hogger, or Edwin VanCleef, or the Furlbrows, or Gryan Stoutmantle or Gwennyth Bly’leggonde, or Raene Wolfrunner or any other character that somehow ended up meaning something to people. I’d also like to know of characters that have a clear opinion on the Horde-Alliance war, both for and against – are there any characters that speak for full on war, are there any that speak for peace in our time, are there ones who think the whole deal is just stupid.

So, to recap: I want you to tell me about any NPCs – be they Horde or Alliance or even Neutral – that existed around the Barrens, Durotar, Orgrimmar, Dustwallow Marsh and Theramore pre-Cataclysm that had some personal significance to you – who they are, where they were, why you think they’re interesting or important or whatever. That one NPC who sent you on the most annoying quest ever, or that one NPC that always snuck up on you and annihilated your low-level alts… I’m interested in those stories – what makes them interesting.

The final bit I want to end with saying is this: Does this mean that Arc Two will happen? I don’t know; it means that part of me wants to make it happen, but I’m still not sure if I can find the energy and urge for it. And if Arc Two does happen, does a mention here mean an NPC will be included somewhere? No, it doesn’t – nor does the amount of people thumbing up one particular character really affect anything. What I’m looking for is purely how interesting they sound to me from a writing perspective, combined with how well they and their location might fit into what my plans are.

So, with all that said, have any NPC stories to share?


64 Responses to “Request: Tell me of Memorable Central Kalimdor Characters”

  1. 1 LolDrood
    January 2, 2012 at 19:18

    Well theres that crazy hermit guy in dustwallow, who always seemed a brain voice away from turning you into jumbalia. Or tabetha, who may be one of the most important people to have nothing to do with us or the wow story-arc. I think they both have good rp potential for vagabond heroes.

    Theramoore itself, i always liked the triage quest guy, and the perenial disgruntled alliance troops trying to start world war 4 are good for an arc.

    Barrens and durotar are boring as hell, the only interesting part is the ruins of the kul tiras establishment.

    Thousand needles could be fun. Cow folk!

    • 2 Nhani
      January 4, 2012 at 00:01

      I kind of want to have the Kul Tiras people brought along in some fashion, to be honest. The Theramore deserters too, really. Problem is, I’m not quite sure where or in what capacity. While I do have a role they could potentially sort of play, I’m not entirely sure whether they’d be able to play well with the other characters sharing that role.

  2. 3 Tariella
    January 2, 2012 at 19:25

    Would it be too obvious to mention Lady Jaina Proudmoore? Or Mankrik’s wife?

    Not a NPC specifically, but there’s the biggest port in all of Kalimdor and according to the wiki, probably the most successful trade center – Ratchet, located in eastern Barrens. The place is run by this guy from Warcraft III that no one remembers, even though he apparently helped build Orgrimmar or something. http://www.wowwiki.com/Gazlowe

    • 4 Nhani
      January 2, 2012 at 19:35

      While I’m quite aware who Jaina Proudmoore is, the thing about Mankrik’s wife is something that could likely do with an explanation since while I’ve heard it mentioned, I don’t quite know what’s up about it. It seems a bit like the Barrens response to the Hogger meme, but I’m not entirely sure what the deal is or how it ended up reaching memetastic levels.

      • 5 Watermist
        January 3, 2012 at 10:29

        Back in the old days, when you get 60% mount at level 40 (man, I remember those days), three Horde races leveled up in the Barrens: Tauren, Orc, and Troll. To make matters worse, you stay in the Barrens from level 12ish to around level 30. Yeah, that’s a lot of running (thank goodness I rolled a hunter, she got aspect of cheetah at level 20. It helped quite a bit). To top off that, you only had one flight path: Crossroad. You had to run to Camp Taurajo and Ratchet (they added in a flight path in Ratchet just before the Burning Crusade if my memory serves correctly).

        Now, Mankrik gave you a quest to find his wife, and the quest said, essentially, this: “My wife and I got separated during the battle against the quillboars. I fear she had fallen. Please find her.”

        That’s it. Usually, quests gave a slight idea where to go, but the quest for Mankrik’s wife did not. To complicate things further, the wife wasn’t named “Mankrik’s Wife,” but rather “Beaten Corpse,” and she was tucked away in a small hut, about halfway between Crossroad (where you got the quest) and Camp Taurajo. Quillboars weren’t anywhere near by it.

        Like I mentioned earlier, players usually were in the Barrens for about twenty levels, and there was a lot of running, with only one flight path, so they usually whittle away time in General chat. Because Mankrik’s wife was impossible to find alone (not kidding. I had guildies show me where, and if you had no friend, you gotta look it up online), people always ask on the General chat (or rather, the Barrens chat) this imfamous question: “Where is Mankrik’s wife?”

        (Another equally infamous Barrens thing? “Crossroad is under attack! Crossroad is under attack! Crossroad is under attack!” Literally never stopped.)

        Aaaaah, the memories. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • 6 Nhani
          January 4, 2012 at 00:08

          Crossroads being attacked is one thing I’m considering letting happen, actually, but I’m a tad worried it might end up feeling like it breaks fourth wall a bit too much, especially considering guards don’t exactly just respawn in Beyond the Tree.

  3. 8 CN
    January 2, 2012 at 22:44

    *wall of text incoming*

    As a primarily Horde player, I have to agree with Loldrood about that Barrens and Durotar part.. With majority of the quests being “hey dude, kill X zhevra and bring me their hooves” grinds, enormous distances between the places and general stupidity of the zone chat, I’ve been avoiding Barrens on purpose since I leveled my first character there (Burning Crusade with Ghostlands has been a godsend here).. So my memory might be hazy there..

    Okay, here’s the list

    Depends on what you intend to do there. If Hani & Co. serve as messengers on an official duty, meeting Thrall and/or Vol’jin is highly probable. Some other noteworthy NPCs might be:

    Master Pyreanor (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=23128)
    Blood elf paladin trainer, stands right next to Thrall as a part of BE delegation. If Arc Two takes place during TBC and the group has some business to do in Grommash Hold, some interesting conversation between Areen and this guy regarding the role of Paladins might occur (remember, BE paladins were quite differernt from the Alliance ones, with siphoning M’uru’s powers and other things Areen might find objectionable)

    Gamon (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=6466)
    Tauren vagabond, usually inside Orgrimmar inn. Kind of impossible to miss if the group travels through lower part of the city. Fairly rowdy guy (especially compared to generally peaceful nature of the tauren), might either threaten someone in the inn or be beaten/killed. Orgrimmar’s a rough place, y’know… Interestingly, one of very few attackable (and as a result more dead than alive) characters in capital cities, so this guy is quite notorious.

    Belgrom Rockmaul (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=4485)
    Orc warrior, outside Hall of the Brave in Valley of Honor. Quite the ladies’ man, also handles the Silithid threat in lower Barrens.

    Not much to see here, especially not something that would be plot-relevant for part two. The one thing that might be interesting has been already mentioned by Loldrood. Well, maybe there’s Flat Tusk, but this one’s just Hogger wannabe. For me, the real deal were the Outriders in Barrens.

    Its going to be a bouncy ride there, between the hot & dry climate, water shortages, vast empty landscape and constant threat either by the centaur, quillboar, harpies, silithid or the usual wildlife. Maybe something of the following will be useful:

    – constant centaur threat through central and western Barrens. The centaur not only control most of fresh water supply in these places (oases etc..), but also constantly harass local settlements and trade routes, going even as far as an all-out assault on Regthar Deathgate’s outpost
    – the quillboar in various parts of Barrens (around Camp Taurajo and the Razorfen dungeons in the south and Thorn Hill east of the Crossroads) are similar sort of pests. Again, water supply control plays significant role here.
    – The Silithid are spreading around Field of Giants near the entrance to Dustwallow Marsh. Again, depending on the time setting of Arc Two these might be non-factor, or foreboding of something sinister. For Horde characters this is quite significant as a first contact with the Silithid. The group (possibly Te’len) might recognize the threat they truly are.
    – Venture Co. operations around Sludge Fen in northeastern Barrens with the devastation and pollution they cause.
    – Dwarves in Bael Modan are digging out precursor artifacts, displacing a Tauren tribe in the process. Gann Stonespire is less than pleased about this.

    Remnants of Daelin Proudmoore’s forces and Ratchet have been aready mentioned. Also, if memory serves, there’s this quest: http://old.wowhead.com/quest=1017

    Some interesting NPCs in Barrens:

    Sergra Darkthorn (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3338)
    Tough, no-nonsense female orc warrior, sort of Horde counterpart for Raene (minus the “cares about you” part, plus some Sgt.Hartmann-like mannerism), located in the Crossroads (but, hey, most vanilla-era alliance players already know that :)). Also the completion text of http://old.wowhead.com/quest=842 shows she’s big on the “gender equality in the New Horde” thing.

    Mankrik (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3432)
    Orc warrior in Crossroads. Hates the quillboar. Since you asked about this guy, here’s some description: He, his wife and several Tauren were attacked by the quillboar, he barely survived. He sends you first on a mad anti-quillboar crusade (the most tedious grind in the old Barrens, by the way. Thirty-effin-quillboar-tusks), then sends you to find the body of his wife. The “meme part” of this is basically a screw-up by Blizzard – her body was marked as “beaten corpse” with no obvious quest objective mark. As a result, many new players had to ask on the zone chat. And with Barrens being fairly busy (second zone for three of the Horde races and all), this was fairly annoying.

    Korran (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3428#comments)
    Troll researcher (I guess), located in the Crossroads, sends people to investigate Silithid activities in Field of Giants.

    Regthar Deathgate (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3389)
    Stationed in an outpost west of the Crossroads, defends the road to Stonetalon Mountains against centaur raids. His most notable quest probably is http://old.wowhead.com/quest=4021 – essentially a big horde vs. centaur battle.

    Jorn Skyseer (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3387)
    In Camp Taurajo, camp leader (sort of)

    Ruga Ragetotem (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=6394)
    In Camp Taurajo, sends people to investigate Field of Giants and the Silithid

    Mangletooth (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3430)
    Quillboar chieftain held captive in Camp Taurajo, sends people to kill Bristleback tribe quillboar, his enemies.

    the Alliance Outrunners:
    Aean Swiftriver (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=5797)
    Hannah Bladeleaf (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=5799)
    Thora Feathermoon (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=5798)
    Marcus Bel (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=5800)
    Group of three Night Elves and one human, they travel along the Golden Road between Dustwallow Marsh and central Barrens. For most Horde players THEY are the Hogger-like trauma (myself included – my first contact with them resulted in one very dead troll hunter.. in technical terms, four lvl 25 elites with large aggro radius in 10-25 zone = no good), I consider them the “Fel Reaver of the Barrens”.. well, sans the noise and ground shaking. From Arc two point of view, they have no characterisation I know of, which means you can give them any personalities you like.

    Gann Stonespire (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3341)
    Patrols along the Gold Road between Dustwallow Marsh entrance and Bael Modan. Notable for his attempts at disrupting Bael Modan operations and also for providing viable recipe for dynamite.

    TL/DR version
    Barrens are boring to level through, but there are some storytelling opportunities.

    Dustwallow Marsh section may or may not follow.

    • 9 Ilyara
      January 3, 2012 at 02:00

      Great post: I never played Horde either and that was an interesting read!

    • 10 Watermist
      January 3, 2012 at 10:23

      A very good guide, though I have one teensy tiny correction: you needed to collect sixty quillboar tusks, not thirty (that’s the post-Cataclysm quest, which is a lot easier as well, with the drop rate being practically 100% those days compared to the old, what, 50% drop rate).

    • 11 Frostsaben
      January 3, 2012 at 14:03

      “the Alliance Outrunners:
      Aean Swiftriver (http://old.wowhead.com/npc=5797)
      Hannah Bladeleaf (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=5799)
      Thora Feathermoon (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=5798)
      Marcus Bel (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=5800)”

      I need to agree with this, these characters were considered somewhat important as they delivered mail from Dustwallow to Ashenvale and around if I remember right. Besides that they were just evil for hordies, if I remember right they were like level 25 rare elites when game started and they could kill anyone under level 30. They got turned to normal rares but they could still kill anyone around level 25 or so, but I also think their level got decreased. I wonder if they survived the Cataclysm…

    • 12 Nhani
      January 4, 2012 at 00:14

      This is quite interesting – it’s already given me a few ideas I might be able to sneak in. Doesn’t seem like there are that many memorable ordinary type characters about, though? Compare, say, the Furlbrows in Westfall – just simple farmers or whatever that just try to have a life?

      • 13 Synchronizor
        January 4, 2012 at 21:33

        Just past the Ashenvale/Barrens border, there’s a small pig farm inhabited by Pooka and Mogg, an Orc mother and child. They have a brief dialogue event (in Orcish) where both refer to a father who is away fighting for the Warsong offensive (I think), after which Pooka walks outside and cries, hinting that the father died in battle, but she doesn’t have the heart to tell her son.

  4. 14 phan556
    January 3, 2012 at 03:16

    Well most of the notable NPCs have already been listed from Gann Stonespire to Gazlowe to Mankrik’s wife. I could add a few CN and others didn’t mention… so I shall! I could probably think of more and better if I gave myself more time, but these are some of the notable NPCs from the top of my head.

    Feegly the Exile: A dwarf who was part of the Bael’dun settlement who went mad because of an artifact called the Tear of the Moons. He has you assault his people, who had exiled him, and upon returning with the gem he is turned into a Trogg (at least as a model). He later returns in Cata as having been changed into said Trogg and even changes another Dwarf into a Trogg before he’s brought down.

    Smiling Jim: Another mad fellow. This one has a particularly trauma to back it up though. His entire family burned to death and his inn, The Shady Rest Inn, went with them. This was done by Grimtotem agents to cause friction between the Horde and Alliance in Dustwallow.

    Gar’thok: NPC from Warcraft III who now resides in Razor Hill. He helps to coordinate efforts against Tiragarde Keep to finish off the Tirasian marines once and for all.

    Naralex: Wailing Caverns-bound druid who worked to restore the Barrens into the tranquil forest/jungle it had been before the coming of the Legion. We see in Cata that he succeeds in his work…

    Serena Bloodfeather: Infamous sister of Bloodfeather from Warcraft III. Major pain to the Horde’s shipping lanes and leader of the Witchwing harpies.

    Baron Longshore: A Gilnean buccaneer who resides on the coast north of Northwatch who both Ratchet and Northwatch want dealt with. He’s eventually arrested and held in prison by Theramore marines after the Cataclysm.

    • 15 Nhani
      January 3, 2012 at 23:40

      I remember Smiling Jim and his inn. Pre-Cataclysm, it was very strongly hinted that it had been deserters who burned the place down to blame the Horde and instigate war rather than actual Tauren (albeit Grimtotem) who were responsible.

      I actually found it really disappointing when Cataclysm threw all of that aside in favor of making the Grimtotem the guilty party.

      • 16 phan556
        January 4, 2012 at 02:34

        I think it was actually confirmed as Grimtotem during TBC when Dustwallow was adjusted though now that I think about it the idea of it being deserters could have been a more interesting storyline…

        • 17 Nhani
          January 4, 2012 at 09:05

          As I recall, there were three pieces of evidence you could find: one was a set of large Tauren footprints, one was a large blackened shield that you’re told was made to be wielded by a large creature, such as a Tauren, and finally and hardest to find – an Alliance insignia belonging to one Lieutenant Pavel Reethe, who you find out has not only left the Theramore forces to join the Deserters… but they then kicked out because he kept insisting they attack the nearby Ogres for supplies and then supposedly headed north to join the Kul Tiras remnant. Quite suspicious.

          Unfortunately, the line ended rather abruptly after finding all that out and was never picked up on again. It’s much like how the Missing Diplomat line also just stopped, but for awhile you could still sneak into the caverns under Alcaz island and find the King of Stormwind just standing around there.

  5. 18 Ex-Mouse
    January 3, 2012 at 08:05

    I think Takar the Seer (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=6244) and Doan Karhan (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=6247) Deserve a mention.

    Particularly Takar, he was the go-between for the Alliance Succubus quest. Sent you for Heartswood and at the end there was a mini scene depicting the tragic end of a pair of Night Elf lovers. I forget their names as I last did the quest 7 years ago.

    • 19 Synchronizor
      January 3, 2012 at 11:47

      Not sure if this is the Night Elf couple you’re referring to, but I do remember a quest started when you find a body in one of the Razorfen instances, which ends with the player delivering the sad news to the deceased Night Elf’s mate in Darnassus. I don’t think he’s in the game anymore, but the female, Treshala Fallowbrook, is still in her home in Tradesmen’s Terrace in Darnassus.

      • 20 Cel
        January 7, 2012 at 13:11

        Actually, he might be. I recently went through Razorfen Kraul and in a tent with a goblin you escort out, there was a male Night elf, though no quest.

        Nhani, it’s a pleasure to follow how the characters evolve. Please continue ๐Ÿ™‚

    • 21 Eliza Scarlet
      January 3, 2012 at 13:07

      Ah, yes, this quest: http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Heartswood

      Don’t think there was ever any names mentioned, though.

      • 22 Mouse
        January 3, 2012 at 22:39

        It’s possible I mis-remember regarding names but I recall there was a “vision in the fire” sort of aside with dialogue from the Night elves. She was clearly a Sentinel but I can’t for the life of me remember if he was a Druid (I seem to remember him wearing robe but that doesn’t mean much, particularly in a war of the ancients context. May have been highborne.)
        Anyways the two humans are most notable for forcing woefully underleveled Gnomes and Humans to cross the world on foot though areas they really shouldn’t have been in. (Vanilla Stranglethorn at level 15 anyone?)

  6. 23 HalfTangible
    January 3, 2012 at 22:51

    I never did alliance quests in central Kalimdor but on the horde side, there’s an orc warrior named Mankrik. His family was slaughtered by the quillboar, so he comes out of retirement as a blademaster and goes on a crusade to basically genocide all the quillboar he can. Precataclysm, he manages to find his wife’s corpse and raise a burial mound for her with the help of the questers.

    Post-cataclysm, he’s still enraged and continues to slaughter the quilboar, going right into the heart of their dens to kill them. When you’re done with his quests, a shaman lady orc whose name i forget gets you to get him to visit with her, and she tries to calm him down (mostly failing). It’s not a particularly amazing story, but it was a very interesting one (the horde side on my server keeps declaring Mankrik the next warchief)

    I didn’t do a lot of questing in the barrens precata though, so I can’t really help you out… though if possible I’d REALLY like Camp Taurajo mentioned. It gets slaughtered by the Alliance after Cata.

    • 24 Nhani
      January 3, 2012 at 23:23

      While everything is up in arms so far, I don’t expect Taurajo to be mentioned unless it has a very good reason to appear within the story, especially if it doesn’t have a whole lot of very strong memories and emotional responses attached. (So far it mostly seems not, really, especially if you compare to, say, the Auberdine visit where several people mentioned several NPCs they were quite fond of and felt a degree of loss over when Cataclysm killed them off)

      Besides, I feel that mentioning Taurajo simply because it becomes razed is sort of to entirely miss the point with why it was razed, from a narrative standpoint. As I understand it, the Horde are told it was a complete slaughter, while the Alliance are confronted with a military commander who deeply regrets having had to give the order in order to deny the Horde warriors a vital training post, did every effort to allow all non-combatants to escape safely, sends you out to put a stop to Alliance deserters looting the place, continuously reminds your character how war has no winners, only losers and keeps stressing the importance of treating your enemy with honor and respect because you’re most likely still going to have to coexist with them once the war is over.

      Of course, then the Horde ambushes him and brutalizes him in several creative ways as revenge for Taurajo, which causes the situation to escalate even further, as the commander’s replacement promptly declares that the only viable response is slaughter of biblical proportions. It’s actually a surprisingly intricate and well-crafted narrative for being World of Warcraft.

      • 25 Synchronizor
        January 4, 2012 at 22:14

        It wouldn’t make sense in the setting of the comic to mention Taurajo’s fate. However, if the cast happens to be passing through, there were a number of named NPCs that Horde players may remember and respond to simple cameos or mentions.

        • 26 Nhani
          January 4, 2012 at 23:14

          So far they don’t seem to have been that memorable, mind you. Only three have been mentioned so far, and not a single one has gotten more than a single line of description.

          • 27 Synchronizor
            January 5, 2012 at 03:52

            Well, I’ve played one Alliance main through all my years in WoW, so I wouldn’t really know either way.

          • 28 Watermist
            January 6, 2012 at 01:11

            Well, you did mentioned that you never leveled a Horde toon through the Barrens. While the NPCs at Taurajo aren’t quite as memorable as, say, Mankrik, if you toss in a shot or two of some of them if the Beyond the Tree crew just happened to be passing Camp Taurajo, I’m pretty sure your Horde readers (like me) would appreciate it. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • 29 Nhani
              January 6, 2012 at 01:35

              Well that’s kind of why this post exists, really – it’s all about providing those personal experiences to those NPCs and those quests that I myself don’t have.

              It’s not really about amount of times mentioned, or about how many lines used to describe them, but how people mention them. For example, if all people tell me about Taurajo and its inhabitants essentially amounts to “Well, it exists.” then my observation will probably be “Huh. What a boring place. Noone’d ever want to see that.”.

              If there’s an NPC, or a quest, or a place or whatever that someone had a personal experience with and they remember it – be it just that one vendor they always sold stuff to, or that NPC they always tried to protect during attacks, or that one really annoying bugger that asked them to murder brainless basilisks… then that’s an experience, that’s something that makes the region stand out and seem like “Yes, people fondly remember this place.”

              By contrast, it’s kind of bad when the very first comment is about how the Barrens is possibly the most boring place ever, and how some subsequent ones even agree. At that point it feels like I should start to ask myself things like “huh. Do I even want to put a story here?”

            • 30 Synchronizor
              January 6, 2012 at 07:59

              From what I understand, the negative attitude toward the Barrens was due not to the quality of it’s content or inhabitants, but to the combination of the zone’s size, level range, and the fact that none of the players in that range aback during vanilla had mounts. Good or bad experiences with the quests and NPCs, it just seems like it became a drag for most people by the time they were finished with the zone.


              Speaking of mounts, if you do go on with Arc 2, is there a possibility of our cast getting mounts?

            • 31 Nhani
              January 6, 2012 at 10:19

              I’ll probably avoid mounts, to be honest – the problem is that mounts not only double the amount of characters in a scene, but also significantly limits what I can do unless they just stand around passively staring into space or disappear into a void dimension when not used.

          • 32 Arafor
            January 8, 2012 at 09:33

            Well, considering that Camp Taurajo had a population consisting of 4 vendors, one inkeeper, 3 additional taurens and a quillboar. Getting 3 mentioned characters isn’t all THAT bad.

  7. 33 Fokker
    January 4, 2012 at 19:29

    Mankrik’s Wife.

    Sorry, had to.

  8. 34 Moltrazahn
    January 5, 2012 at 13:56

    For myself, it wasent really any of the NPC’s that made an impact, rather, i was a rarespawn… namely
    “Takk the leaper”. A nearly black raptor, that would be eastward from the northern oil platform.
    For all the hunters ive ever made, it was that rarespawn, that was nr.1. Plus, i found it to be exciting to hunt, much more then that white lion thing. Thing about it was (before pets got the nerfhammer) that it had a serious speed increase. Like a rogue hitting sprint. Plus, it was elite, so i often had epic battles (in my regard) with it, trying to take it down, or take it.

    Link: http://www.wowwiki.com/Takk_the_Leaper

  9. 35 Raz
    January 5, 2012 at 15:49

    Besides the Crossroads is a heavy quillboar infestation, of which is apparently lead by Elder Mystic Razorsnout. Sure, they’ve not got the greatest story apart from looting shipments inbound for Crossroads, but they are in the way of directly avoiding passage through the Crossroads.

    You’ve also got the Burning Blade who dominate pretty much the entire mountain near the Forgotten Pools, and who had a satyr in charge (I remember killing him for a long cloak very early in my levelling!) It was also a location used in the Cycle of Hatred where Jaina and Aegwynn (plus Jaina’s lieutenant) banished a lesser demon named Zmolder (or something).

  10. January 5, 2012 at 15:59

    One of my personal favorite NPC’s is Captain Darill. He’s posted in the northernmost tower in Dustwallow Marsh (North Point Tower), so I imagine that if Hani and her companions are “passing by” they’ll have to at least walk past the tower. (and all the high elven sentries and scouts) โค

    The place has more high elves than Stormwind. So yeah, its one of my favorite hang outs. (And they're all gonna die in MoP. I'm still pissed off about the fact we're loosing Theramore… Its my Hunter/Ranger's RP home after leaving Silvermoon)

    Anyway, more about Darill- he's heavily involved with the Shady Rest Inn chain, (which was updated in patch 2.3 long before Cata) and is pretty knowledgeable about the area. (in-quest dialogue says he's an "expert" on the Grimtotems, and knows Tabetha secret to boot)

    A human called Sergeant Lukas is also stationed outside the tower. He's probably gonna be hard to miss. (He has you capture Raptors to unleash on the Grimtotems XD)

    And hey, Nat Pagle is in Dustwallow. In case you want more HUMAN cameo's. ๐Ÿ˜›

  11. 38 SnowRose
    January 5, 2012 at 16:01

    In the book: Cycle of Hatred, Jaina and Aegwyn fights a demon atop Dreadmist peak in the northern Barrens, and when you went to the same place in WoW there was a demon inside that cave. I don’t remember if it was the same demon from the book( most likely not) but maybe you can find some use for this ๐Ÿ™‚


    There’s the link to the demon from the books.

  12. 39 Watermist
    January 6, 2012 at 06:19

    “If thereโ€™s an NPC, or a quest, or a place or whatever that someone had a personal experience with and they remember it โ€“ be it just that one vendor they always sold stuff to, or that NPC they always tried to protect during attacks, or that one really annoying bugger that asked them to murder brainless basilisksโ€ฆ then thatโ€™s an experience, thatโ€™s something that makes the region stand out and seem like โ€œYes, people fondly remember this place.โ€”

    Oh, I leveled up my skinning and leatherworking a good hundred points (back in the vanilla days), and my favorite leatherworker trainer was the one in Camp Taurajo, so there you go. Also, there was a quillboar prisoner in a cage, next to the flight path, which gives you some weird quests: if you collect enough shadowgems, he’ll give you some kind of buff. The completion to those quests always implied that the quillboar had an escape in plans, but it looked as if Blizzard nixed it.

    The quillboar: http://www.wowpedia.org/Mangletooth

    The leatherworker: http://www.wowpedia.org/Krulmoo_Fullmoon

    The skinner: http://www.wowpedia.org/Dranh

    Final note of interest: my guildies disliked this guy, because he gave quests at level 10… when they’re really for level 20 players. http://www.wowpedia.org/Jorn_Skyseer

    • 40 Watermist
      January 6, 2012 at 06:20

      Doh, what was I thinking? The quillboar did escaped, and fun fact – Mankrik will have the player kill the quillboar!

      (Also? Shadowgems? Sheesh, my memory’s going bad. I meant Blood Shards.)

  13. 41 Ulairi
    January 6, 2012 at 13:13

    Seeing your comic has kept me enjoyed for a long time now, i guess I should try to do something in return ๐Ÿ™‚ (okey I admit, its just selfish desire to see you continue cuz I love this comic) But a lot of people mentioned npc’s already, so I will try to focus on some of the locations that I always enjoyed as Nelf.

    *cough* I honestly forgot most npc’s and those I remembered are mentioned already *cough*

    1) The Mor’shan Ramparts is the first location that comes to mind, it was always fun to Rp a sentinel on guard near and around that horde fortification leading to the barrens. and trying to sneak past them horde guards. Especially with both WSG entrances being practicly besides it. (I wonder, if a reference to the famous gulch is possible with it? or will those battleground “locations” be ignored in this?)

    2) Dreadmist peak, there was some odd flavour around that hill, something to do with warlocks if I recall correctly?

    3) Bael Modan, though I never was into dwarfs, the presence of that dwarf fortress always facinated me. (what have the dwarfs uncovered there that makes it important enough to build those kinds of fortifications in hostile lands?)

    4) The “forest” of thorns around Razorfen: one of the first places to give me the creeps in wow. (besides a fun sleeping beauty moment whenever I entered it)

    5) I dont remember the exact location, nor if it was vanilla or tbc, but there where some eggs and drones from the Silithid insects who came to the southern barrens all the way from silithus? It was my first encounter with those kind of creatures and it was a fun prelude for things to come in silithus later on.

    As alliance there was not much to do except getting killed. (bless you Rppvp servers) Hence I can’t really comment on this place. However the Tiragarde keep comes to mind as a facinating spot. (what ever happend to the rest of that fleet? did it ever show up?)

    Dustwallow Marsh:
    Well besides my love and devotion for Theramore itself, (before the stupid npc’s started to talk deserter stuff, it was a nice Rp place in my opinion) I can think off the folowing places I enjoyed there:

    1) Shady rest inn: A clear sign that trouble was ahead of us in wow, and one of the first storylines that kinda left an impression. (just like little pamela in the plaguelands, some quests just do something to me)

    2) There where several alliance “camps” leading out from the main road of Theramore, Some also had a guard tower, (tower point etc) but others just had a tent and not much more. great spots to camp during the “night”

    3) Wyrmbog, dragonspawn and onyxia kinda speaks for itself, but I doubt it would fit any kind of story arc at the present time so ignore it ๐Ÿ™‚

    That’s all folks, some locations that came to my mind as being fun to Rp at.

  14. 42 WormRunner
    January 7, 2012 at 01:53

    Don’t forget Sarilus Foulborne, who is yet another bad guy assaulting Ashenvale but from the south and headquartered on Dreadmist Peak. I killed him on several of my toons and for some, like my feral druid, he was no problem, and for others he was just awful. His main interest for me though is his relationship to Ashenvale.


    Also, one of the places I found interesting was the Shrine of the Fallen Warrior, which in real life commemorated a Blizzard developer who died during the game’s development, but is also comes across as a powerful memorial in the game. When I first came across it (as a night elf druid exploring the Barrens for the first time) I didn’t know any of its real life story and still struck me.


    • 43 Nhani
      January 7, 2012 at 02:10

      I was wondering if Foulborne would come up – he’s one of the very few Barrens NPCs that I actually have had enough experiences with to find personally memorable.

  15. 44 Dkfreak1
    January 8, 2012 at 16:18

    Alot of NPCs and place have already been mentioned, and i would like to say i agree with a whole lot of them and i truely hope you can implent alot of the ideas. But for the camp that gets destroyed in Cata. It would be nice if the “Team” get pass it and one of the members make a small thing say “What is the place” and another replies. “Its just a hunter camp, no real threat to any of us.” To imply it was common knowledge the place were peacefull instead of the “rumours” there were going on among the alliance that led to its destruction.

    • 45 Nhani
      January 9, 2012 at 04:15

      To be honest, if the only reason for mentioning Taurajo would be to make that kind of petty “take that!”, I’d rather not have it mentioned at all

  16. January 8, 2012 at 18:02

    Remember Fiora Longears?


    While it’s highly likely she did not survive the Shattering, it is possible she had a story of her own to tell before Catacylsm. She first started out in Theramore and for some inexplicable reason, ended up in Auberdine.

  17. 47 Nila
    January 8, 2012 at 22:43

    One word…. Mankrik.

  18. 48 Hamburgler
    January 9, 2012 at 01:37


    Inspector Tarem. Not really memorable, but the dude’s one of the only detectives on Kalimdor.

  19. 49 Dkfreak1
    January 9, 2012 at 16:38

    Oh on the outrunners of the barrens, beside be a pain in the *** They also are the one who bring messages around kalimdor, atleast in the barrens. Most noteable i remember about them is it is 3 female night elfs and 1 male human in a heavy pink dress. And one of the outrunners last name is Feathermoon, a hint she is related to Shandris Feathermoon, the same Shandris that is “Oh so dear” to a certaint Mrs Stormragerage.

  20. 51 Liabelle
    January 9, 2012 at 17:17

    The thing about the barrens isn’t that it’s not rich in lore or good things, it’s that it dragged and dragged FOREVER. Ally side never really had an experience like the barrens, at least until everyone got Hellfire. Hellfire is close. So there’s a lot of old scars on people who had to run the old barrens.

    The Druids from wailing caverns, and their lore concerning the emerald nightmare drew me in, ridiculous armor notwithstanding. something about the different shifting forms and “Evil” druids… that and having them visit the Caverns let’s them do a few fantastic quests we seem to have lost with cata:

    The Great Lift,
    if you looked around the base, had a night elf body not too far away from it, holding a journal. It was the alliance lead-in to razorfen, where you went to go save the other night elf captured inside (someone else did the legwork on that one, but I wanted to throw my support behind it.)

    The northern edge of the barrens is also swarmed with harpies, black and blue winged bitches who go after caravans. Always liked the idea of them, but they’re not as well used here as they are in stormpeaks.

    This. This evil bloody quest string had you running over hill and dale in the barrens, from goblin to goblin, as they beat this poor invention into the ground. there’s just something about watching a fleet of goblins trying to make something work and breaking it repeatedly that warms my heart.

    Another “huge pain in the ass” quest line, it ended in a huge fight between orcs and centuar, dust flying, surrounded by burning farmsteads, until the centuar leader “rides” up and you gut him, snapping his flag after the deed and scattering the horsemen. Worth the pain of trying to get the lead ups done, but no one ever felt like doing the legwork to get to the last big battle part.

    The gnome needs a bloody mount, both for height and because she’s a knight. Having her ride a black loin would just be awesome.

    Always found him an odd duck. he’s not a blood elf, but there’s just something about him that made me remember him. Maybe it was that he’s the only high elf that seemed to care about his underlings.. no clue.

    One of the few forsaken in the barrens, and the only named one that I can remember from the entire top half of the Continent, he was the very first inkling you got as a non-forsaken (or belf) that Sylvanis was working on biological weapons.

    There was a female orc shaman trainer whose name escapes me, she was the water totem quest giver, out in the middle of nowhere, dragged you all over the world at level 20, from barrens to silverpine to tarren mill and back again.. I’m sure some old horde shaman remembers the name of this girl. she was nearly as terrible as the old alliance side druid quest for sealion form.

    I remember the butcher at crossroads has a thing going with the orgrimmar innkeper girl.

    I remember an orc child who threw rocks at a beehive and had to jump into a lake at a pig farm while his sister laughed at him.

    I remember there were two nameless orc guards at a lone tower between crossroads and ashenvale, nothing for what looked like miles around, and they were just shooting the breeze in the shade, annoyed they were stuck out there.

  21. 52 Grafica
    January 9, 2012 at 17:27

    Not to beat a dead horse here, but Mankrik’s wife was the Horde’s first quest that if you didn’t have a good understanding of WoWhead or Thottbot, you’d be searching for her until your eyes bleed… I remember running across the “Beaten Corpse” before I ever got the quest, but I never put the two together until my friend pointed it out to me.

    Another thing that I recall is the quest givers for the Wailing Caverns used to be up in the rocks above the entrance to the instance. (if you pan your camera view out you will notice that the WC entrance actually looks like a skull, these NPC’s were in the ‘right eye socket’) They could have something to do with the story. Also, with Naralex, inside of the Wailing Caverns (after beating the instance, you wake Naralex up from his nightmare). These could be good segues into another storyline that may or may not be to your liking.

    I like the idea of “3. Local Defense: The Crossroads are under attack!” somehow making it into the story, even if it’s only as a joke or something…

    Other than that, in the lower levels, I used to think it was cool that the Centaurs that rule all of the oasises?… oasis’s?… oasii?… oases? (whatever!) would drop keys to their treasure chests, they didn’t usually have very significant things in there, I just thought it was a cool idea of having the option to kill the centaurs to be able to steal the loot that they have stolen from other passersby.

    Finally, back in the days of Vanilla WoW, I remember running around in The Barrens seeing a single Orc, next to a building, in the middle of nowhere… they never gave quests, nor were they a part of any quest, they were just out there enjoying the nothingness of The Barrens… perhaps one of these “no-namers” could be of some assistance, (or resistance) to Hani’s party

    Either way, whatever happens, I am completely immersed in the story, and for it to end would mean that I’d have to pout, cry and throw things like a little baby… maybe not that extreme, but you understand the point…

  22. 53 crazyterran
    January 9, 2012 at 19:51

    If you don’t find anything good, I imagine Shandris Feathermoon out in Feralas would be a good character, if you wanted to skip all the silly parts in the desert/swamp. ๐Ÿ˜›

    But, if you are going to do it out in those areas, I imagine that the old gods under Bael Modan (a dwarf NPC references digging up something terrible), Smiling Jim’s inn, the Deserters, Naralax in the Wailing Caverns, Ratchet, etc. Would all be good places to visit as an Alliance character.

    There where also the Alliance couriers who patrolled beside the road between the barrens and Dustwallow, representing the Night Elves and Theramore passing messages. Of course, they get killed in Horde quests…

  23. 54 Kitain
    January 10, 2012 at 04:58

    Most of the things I found memorable have already been mentioned, so I’ll skip that. Well, aside from the fact that even though I don’t remember the names of the people of Taurajo, I remember the place quite well and when it was destroyed I was actually saddened. And then when I did the quest where you go and eulogize some of the npcs there, memories kind of came back. I dunno, it was kind of striking


    (sorry, I don’t know how to do the click links.)

    Anyway, the real reason I’m coming out of the woodwork to comment ๐Ÿ™‚ I don’t know if you end up in Thousand Needles, or how you could work it in (I’ve pretty much always played Horde so most of my experience is from that side), but there’s this one quest there called the test of faith.


    It doesn’t exist anymore, but basically you accept this quest from a tauren in a cave that was very easy to miss. You get teleported onto one of the high plateaus in Thousand Needles in the middle of a circle of stones. The only opening to that circle leads to a wooden plank over the side. There’s no way down (for a non-flying lowbie). Basically you just have to jump. Before you crash to the ground you get teleported back to the questgiver. I always searched that quest out because it was pretty neat and for some reason I like jumping from high places (good thing I play a rogue primarily hehe). So that’s my input.

    Good job on the comic by the way. I’m enjoying it quite a bit, even though I’m mired in deep on the horde side heh

  24. 55 GRYFFYN
    January 11, 2012 at 20:23

    Not being horde, the first time through this area was actually part of a walkabout my NELF warrior did as a level 35 in Vanilla where he went and uncovered as much of Kalmindor as I could manage. I decided to go down the gold road past the crossroads down to Theramore, turn east and then up to the Blasted lands and back home.

    Remember you couldn’t get a mount till 40 so it was all walking solo avoiding all of the nasty stuff along the way that tried to turn him ito NELF kibble.

    My feeling about the area, was one of relief that I didn’t have to level there. One thing about the area that always comes to mind about it is Wailing Caverns. Soooooo dammed big and those mobs that seemed to spawn every 5 seconds.

    What really makes me smile about the area, is Savory Devient Delight, that you made from catching the fish. Imagine the Trio having dinner with some crazy shaman hanging around the Caverns?

  25. 56 Ghobe
    January 11, 2012 at 21:38

    An area that is kind of permanently burned into my head was in the extreme southeastern area of ashenvale(with a border to the barrens and through enough wall jumping you could end up in the barrens). The area was a drastically different color than the rest of the area(virtually devoid of color, a.k.a. almost all grey). The only color to the place came from the local demons and possibly the most memorable items in the game for those that went exploring, an enormous floating broken pit-lord weapon that was exhuming fel energy. For the longest time, this area didn’t even have a quest line associated with it, hell I don’t even know if this area still exists after the cataclysm. There was a single “friendly” npc in the area near the entrance that was added after a while….an imp, that was none too much happy to see you, but more than willing to trade for gold. However he was a bit off to the side and would wander around between the big angry Satyrs and Succubi.

  26. 57 Drakan
    January 16, 2012 at 08:00

    I have many fond memories of Ashenvale. Astranaar was as frequently under attack from the Horde as Crossroads was from the Alliance – often in retaliation. I used to hide in the bushes, buffing the sentinels with Mark of the Wild (until someone told me they couldn’t attack you unless you were flagged, e.g. by buffing a player who was flagged…). My favourite quest chain there was the long one to heal the child, that ended up with Dartol’s rod of Transformation. This lead to the quests around the lake, now empty, and the lodge, now a horde lumber yard. Forgive me for being bad at names. The Cookbook was only obtainable from the lodge, and this led, in part, to my fascination with completing professions. There we had to cull the furbolgs – I played with a hunter, Insano, who I had hooked up with on the Tower quest (always hard to solo) and often another druid, Blakes. We still died to the pack of 8 furbolg guarding the treasure chest.
    On then to Raynewood Retreat, via the quest that had you endlessly killing slime in order to recover a chest. There was one quest that sent you into a barrow – the same layout as that in Teladrassil. There was also a group of three higher level NPCs around an altar of some sort, which you crossed at your peril. I’ll look up some names later – time to leave for work.

    • 58 Drakan
      January 17, 2012 at 00:55

      The Furbolg quest was “An Aggressive Defence” http://old.wowhead.com/quest=1025, started by Raene Wolfrunner in Astranaar. She also started the quest for Dartol’s rod.

      The Barrow quest was in Dor’danil Barrow Den, which set you out to kill the 3 insane druids: Taneel Darkwood, Uthil Mooncall, Mavoris Cloudsbreak. http://old.wowhead.com/quest=1012 Uthil was the bear druid at the bottom of the left hand turn, for some reason I recall this one in particular with sadness. I think this was where my dislike of the Forsaken arose, as it was their diseases that sent the druids insane. http://old.wowhead.com/quest=1011

      btw Reading up on old.wowhead.com there was only one Alliance quest in the whole of the Barrens (from the accompany quest in Wailing Caverns) http://old.wowhead.com/quest=3370#comments This lead you to take the shard you had collected (eventually) to a goblin in Ratchet – Sputtervalve of the Tinkers Union http://old.wowhead.com/npc=3442#starts – who then sent you on to Falla Sagewind, a Tauren Druid,
      on the hills to the south. She in turn sent you to Mathrengyl Bearwalker in Darnassus (horde got sent to Runetotem). I remember just handing this in took virtually a whole evening’s play! It was also the first time I got to interact with a horde NPC (other than running away from them in the process of sneaking through the gateway to the Barrens to get to WC in the first place). I recall now that it was another hunter, Eddiestone, who showed us the route, the broken fence to the east of the main barrier.

      One of the final quests in Ashenvale, at level 30, led us away from Kalimdor and into Duskwood. It started with Sentinel Melyria Frostshadow at Forest Song sending us to read a book … in the middle of a den of wolf-men. This took us somewhat longer than it should have done as the hunter kept stopping to skin them… http://old.wowhead.com/quest=1022. This was one of my favourite quests, with a storyline that ended in mystery – one not resolved until Grizzly Hills in WotLK.

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